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Roving Bobbin Build, Doff Interval & Changeover Loss

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Twelve minutes of doffing against four hours of running is nearly five per cent of the frame.

Bobbin Build The package geometry
mm
mm
mm
kg/m3
Frame & Doffing What fills it and what it costs to change
ktex
m/min
min
h

Doff Interval

— min

Running time to fill one set of bobbins

Package, Loss & Output

Roving per Bobbin
— kg
Roving Length per Bobbin
— m
Production Lost to Doffing
— %
Doffs per Shift
—
Roving per Doff
— kg
Effective Frame Production
— kg/h
Package Volume
— dm3
Build Ratio
— x

The package is treated as a plain annular cylinder. A real roving bobbin is built with tapered ends so that it can be doffed and handled without the coils collapsing, and that taper removes a few per cent of the nominal volume - so measured capacity runs below the geometric figure. Package density must be measured rather than assumed; it moves with twist, winding tension and build settings. The doff time entered should be the full frame-stopped time including creeling and restart, not the time to strip the bobbins - restart to full speed is a real part of it. Effective production assumes doffing is the only stoppage; ends down, cleaning and lot changes are additional and are not included here.

Using this calculator

About the Roving Bobbin Build, Doff Interval & Changeover Loss

The formula

This is the expression the tool evaluates. Every term is named underneath, with the unit it must be supplied in.

Package as an annular cylinder
bobbinVolume = pi / 4 x ( fullDiameter^2 - barrelDiameter^2 ) x liftHeight

The roving occupies the annulus between the bare bobbin and the full diameter, over the traverse lift. The bare bobbin has to come out because it is not roving - and squaring both diameters means the barrel removes less than its diameter suggests.

Volume to mass to length
bobbinMass = bobbinVolume x packingDensity rovingPerBobbin = bobbinMass x 1000 / rovingKtex

ktex is grams per metre, so dividing the mass in grams by it gives metres directly. A normal cotton roving bobbin holds between four and five kilometres.

How long the package lasts
doffInterval = rovingPerBobbin / deliverySpeed

Every spindle fills at the same rate, so the interval is a single figure for the whole frame - which is exactly why the doff is a whole-frame event and why it takes as long as it does.

The changeover as a fraction of the cycle
doffLoss = doffTime / ( doffInterval + doffTime ) x 100

The frame is stopped for the whole doff, so the loss is the doff time over the full cycle rather than over the running time. That distinction matters more the shorter the interval gets.

Symbols used above
SymbolStands forUnit
liftTraverse height of the bobbin railmm
build ratioFull diameter over bare bobbin diameterx
ktexKilotex, grams per metreg/m

How the result is derived

Step by step, from the values you type to the figure on screen.

  1. The 9 inputs are read from the form on every keystroke: Bare Bobbin Diameter, Full Bobbin Diameter, Traverse Lift, Package Density, Roving Linear Density, Front Roller Delivery, Doff Time, Spindles on the Frame and Shift Length.
  2. Each value is checked against the accepted range in the input table below. A value outside its range stops the calculation rather than producing a misleading figure — the results blank out and a message appears.
  3. The validated values are substituted into the expression above, which resolves Doff Interval together with every supporting figure in one pass — no value is carried over from a previous entry.
  4. The supporting outputs — Roving per Bobbin, Roving Length per Bobbin, Production Lost to Doffing, Doffs per Shift, Roving per Doff, Effective Frame Production, Package Volume and Build Ratio — come from the same pass, so they always describe the same case as the headline figure.
  5. Results are rounded for display only. The full-precision value is used throughout the chain, so reading a rounded intermediate figure back into the tool by hand can shift the last digit.

What each input means

Where to read each value on the floor, the unit it must be in, and the range the tool accepts.

InputUnitAccepted rangeDefaultWhat it means
Bare Bobbin Diametermm20 to 100 mm48
Full Bobbin Diametermm60 to 250 mm150
Traverse Liftmm100 to 700 mm400
Package Densitykg/m3200 to 800 kg/m3420
Roving Linear Densityktex0.1 to 3 ktex0.6
Front Roller Deliverym/min3 to 60 m/min18
Doff Timemin1 to 60 min12
Spindles on the Frame—1 to 240120
Shift Lengthh1 to 24 h8

What the tool returns

The headline figure and every supporting value it is built from.

OutputUnitWhat it tells you
Doff Interval (headline result)minRunning time to fill one set of bobbins
Roving per Bobbinkg
Roving Length per Bobbinm
Production Lost to Doffing%
Doffs per Shift—
Roving per Doffkg
Effective Frame Productionkg/h
Package Volumedm3
Build Ratiox

Worked example

Given

0
48 mm bare bobbin building to 150 mm over a 400 mm lift
1
Package density 420 kg/m3
2
0.6 ktex roving delivered at 18 m/min
3
12 minutes to doff, 120 spindles, 8-hour shift

Substituting

volume = pi/4 x (0.150^2 - 0.048^2) x 0.400 = 6.345 dm3mass = 0.006345 x 420 = 2.665 kglength = 2665 g / 0.6 g per m = 4,441 minterval = 4,441 / 18 = 246.74 mindoffLoss = 12 / (246.74 + 12) = 4.64%

Answer

0
Doff interval 246.74 min - just over four hours
1
2.665 kg per bobbin, holding 4,441 m of roving
2
Doffing costs 4.64% of production
3
1.86 doffs per shift, 319.8 kg of roving per doff
4
Effective frame production 74.15 kg/h, build ratio 3.13

Nearly five per cent of the frame is spent doffing, and it does not appear in any speed or twist calculation. On a mill running three speed frames that is most of a fourth frame lost to changeover - which is the entire business case for automatic doffing.

How to use it

  1. Work through the input groups in order — Bobbin Build and Frame & Doffing. The defaults are a realistic case, so you can change one value at a time and watch what moves.
  2. There is no calculate button. Every figure recalculates as you type or drag, which is what makes this usable for a what-if sweep rather than a single answer.
  3. Read Doff Interval in the dark results panel — that is the headline figure, expressed in min.
  4. Check the supporting rows underneath (Roving per Bobbin, Roving Length per Bobbin, Production Lost to Doffing, Doffs per Shift, Roving per Doff, Effective Frame Production, Package Volume and Build Ratio) before acting on the headline — they are where an implausible input usually shows itself first.
  5. Reset to defaults returns every field to the reference case, which is the quickest way to check whether a surprising result came from the tool or from an input you had changed earlier.

Where this is used

  • Process planning — establishing Doff Interval before a trial is booked, so machine time and material in Blowroom, Carding, Drawing & Roving Control are committed against a calculated figure rather than an estimate.
  • Costing and quotation — Doff Interval is an input to the cost sheet, and quoting from a worked number rather than a remembered one is what keeps a margin intact.
  • Troubleshooting — when the floor result drifts from plan, entering the measured values (starting with Bare Bobbin Diameter) shows how much of the gap in Doff Interval each variable explains.
  • Teaching and study — the accepted ranges bracket normal Blowroom, Carding, Drawing & Roving Control practice, so moving one variable at a time shows the shape of the relationship rather than a single answer.

Reading the result

Typical bands and what each one is telling you.

ValueWhat it indicates
2 - 3 kg per bobbinNormal cotton roving package on a modern speed frame.
3 - 5 h doff intervalTypical. Long enough that doffing labour can be scheduled rather than continuous.
Doff loss under 3%Good. Either a large package or an automatic doffer.
Doff loss above 6%The changeover is costing more than most process improvements would return.

Assumptions and limits

  • The package is treated as a plain annular cylinder. A real roving bobbin is built with tapered ends so that it can be doffed and handled without the coils collapsing, and that taper removes a few per cent of the nominal volume - so measured capacity runs below the geometric figure. Package density must be measured rather than assumed; it moves with twist, winding tension and build settings. The doff time entered should be the full frame-stopped time including creeling and restart, not the time to strip the bobbins - restart to full speed is a real part of it. Effective production assumes doffing is the only stoppage; ends down, cleaning and lot changes are additional and are not included here.
  • Every input is bounded to the range normal practice occupies (Bare Bobbin Diameter 20 to 100 mm, Full Bobbin Diameter 60 to 250 mm and Traverse Lift 100 to 700 mm, and so on for the rest). Those bounds are guard rails against typing errors, not a claim that the formula fails one unit outside them.
  • The calculation is deterministic: the same inputs always give the same result. It carries no allowance for machine condition, operator skill, ambient conditions or lot-to-lot material variation unless an input above explicitly represents one.
  • Nothing is sent anywhere. The maths runs in your browser, so the numbers you type never leave the page.

Standards and further reading

  • ISO 2060 / ASTM D1907 - linear density of the roving.
  • ASTM D1425 - unevenness, which false draft during winding shows up in.
  • ISO 8119 - Textile machinery, Spinning preparatory machinery dimensions.

Questions people ask

Why not simply build a larger bobbin?

Because the flyer has to carry it. The bobbin sits inside a rotating flyer and its mass has to be accelerated and supported at speed, so a larger package raises the load on the flyer, the vibration, and the tension in the roving between flyer and bobbin. Package size on a speed frame is limited by flyer mechanics rather than by anything to do with the roving - which is precisely why automatic doffing was the industry answer rather than bigger bobbins.

Is the package density something I can rely on?

Only if measured. It depends on roving twist, on the tension between flyer and bobbin, and on the build settings, and it varies enough between frames to move the doff interval by twenty minutes. Weigh a full bobbin and divide by the annular volume - that gives the density for your material and settings, and it is a five-minute measurement that makes every figure downstream real.

The bare bobbin is a third of the full diameter. Why does it barely reduce capacity?

Because volume goes with the square of the diameter. At 48 mm against 150 mm, the barrel occupies 48 squared over 150 squared, which is only 10.2% of the full cylinder. The build ratio of 3.13 sounds dramatic and costs a tenth of the package. It is the same reason the last few millimetres of build add far more roving than the first few.

Does the doff interval matter to the ring frame?

Directly - the ring frame creel is fed from these bobbins, and a mill has to hold enough full bobbins to cover the ring frame between speed frame doffs. It also matters for traceability: a roving doff is a natural lot boundary, and count or blend variation between doffs arrives at the ring frame as a step change rather than as drift. When ring frame count variation aligns with the doff interval, this is where to look.

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